{"id":262,"date":"2023-07-28T04:17:20","date_gmt":"2023-07-28T10:17:20","guid":{"rendered":"https:\/\/santateresahoy.com\/?p=262"},"modified":"2023-07-28T04:17:20","modified_gmt":"2023-07-28T10:17:20","slug":"entrevista-a-stefano-silvestri-uno-de-los-pioneros-de-la-conservacion-y-el-surf-en-la-zona","status":"publish","type":"post","link":"https:\/\/santateresahoy.com\/en\/2023\/07\/28\/entrevista-a-stefano-silvestri-uno-de-los-pioneros-de-la-conservacion-y-el-surf-en-la-zona\/","title":{"rendered":"Entrevista a Stefano Silvestri, uno de los pioneros de la conservaci\u00f3n y el surf en la zona"},"content":{"rendered":"<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-English below&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Entrevistamos a Stefano Silvestri para aprender sobre su trayectoria en la conservaci\u00f3n de la naturaleza y sus experiencias al llegar a Costa Rica. Nos reunimos en su casa de bamb\u00fa que es un oasis de tranquilidad en medio del ruido que hay \u00faltimamente en la zona.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Stefano Silvestri lleg\u00f3 desde Italia (donde estudi\u00f3 Derecho) hace 38 a\u00f1os para trabajar en un proyecto de cooperaci\u00f3n t\u00e9cnica sobre Derechos Humanos con la Universidad de Costa Rica . Despu\u00e9s, se interes\u00f3 por la bot\u00e1nica y trabaj\u00f3 la agricultura org\u00e1nica, plantas y \u00e1rboles medicinales.\u00a0\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">En el a\u00f1o 1989 adquiri\u00f3 junto con algunos amigos una finca de m\u00e1s de 20 hect\u00e1reas que dejaron en conservaci\u00f3n y que dio origen a la Reserva Natural Oropopo.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Desde hace 10 a\u00f1os trabaja con la Red Costarricense de Reservas Naturales, una organizaci\u00f3n que re\u00fane m\u00e1s de 200 reservas voluntarias en el pa\u00eds. Tambi\u00e9n es co-fundador de Somos Congos y forma parte de Covirena.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Cuando lleg\u00f3 a Santa Teresa y Malpa\u00eds \u00bfCu\u00e1l fue su primera impresi\u00f3n?\u00bfC\u00f3mo era aqu\u00ed la vida?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yo llegu\u00e9 por primera vez en el verano 1985-86, en barco desde Cabuya y me acuerdo que dormimos en la playa frente a Mar Azul. Hab\u00eda un peque\u00f1o pueblo en Malpa\u00eds y Santa Teresa. Hab\u00eda muy pocas casas. Del lado derecho, yendo hacia el norte, eran todos terrenos del IDA (Instituto de Desarrollo Agrario) que hab\u00eda dado esa tierra a campesinos  que hab\u00edan venido a la zona a cultivar una agricultura de subsistencia. Fundamentalmente ganader\u00eda y un poquito de cultivos.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A mano izquierda de la calle estaban las millas mar\u00edtimas que en aquel tiempo no ten\u00edan mayor valor porque los terrenos eran muy malos para agricultura y pr\u00e1cticamente ah\u00ed casi no se cultivaba nada, solo un poquito de cuadrado, un tipo de mus\u00e1cea que se da para comer a los animales. En Malpa\u00eds hab\u00eda un peque\u00f1o pueblo y la gente se hab\u00eda empezado a dedicar a la pesca. La mayor\u00eda de la poblaci\u00f3n de Malpa\u00eds y de Santa Teresa ven\u00eda desde el interior del pa\u00eds, por eso  les dec\u00edan Cartagos. No eran de Cartago, pero la palabra Cartago era para indicar gente de la meseta, Alajuela, Esparza, San Ram\u00f3n\u2026 Y hab\u00eda algunos jornaleros que ven\u00edan de Guanacaste. Pero eran muy pocos, la mayor\u00eda ven\u00eda de la Meseta Central.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\u00bfHab\u00eda turismo? \u00bfExtranjeros?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mira, turismo casi no hab\u00eda. El acceso era muy complicado, en invierno pr\u00e1cticamente casi imposible, incluso aqu\u00ed abajo, de Malpa\u00eds a Santa Hermosa no hab\u00eda ning\u00fan puente. Hab\u00eda m\u00e1s turismo en Montezuma, que ya era como m\u00e1s pueblo. Aqu\u00ed lleg\u00f3 la luz en 1992\u00a0 cuando nosotros, con mi socio, decidimos hacernos una casita usando un poco de la madera que el ICE hab\u00eda cortado para electrificar la zona.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\u00bfCu\u00e1ndo empez\u00f3 su afici\u00f3n por el surf? \u00bfEn qu\u00e9 momento esto se convirti\u00f3 en un para\u00edso del surf?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">En el Mediterr\u00e1neo yo no surfeaba porque tenemos muy pocas olas. Fue aqu\u00ed que empec\u00e9 con los surfeadores de Costa Rica cuando viv\u00eda en San Jos\u00e9 y trabajaba en la Universidad. Iba con ellos a surfear al Pac\u00edfico central o a Puerto Viejo, o sea el Caribe y a veces Guanacaste.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ya cuando llegu\u00e9 a esta zona empec\u00e9 a surfear ac\u00e1. Al principio s\u00ed \u00e9ramos muy pocos.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Cuando llegu\u00e9, la verdad que el surf estaba apenas empezando y yo no sab\u00eda d\u00f3nde meterme porque nadie surfeaba, yo no sab\u00eda si hab\u00eda rocas o no. Poco a poco, fui experimentando.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Y tambi\u00e9n comentaba hace poco que hab\u00eda aprendido de los Bribri sobre plantas medicinales:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Pas\u00e9 una temporada en el Caribe y ah\u00ed estuve en las comunidades Bribri y Cab\u00e9car varias veces. Cuando se organizaba alg\u00fan taller de plantas medicinales yo trataba de ir y aprovechar todo lo que se presentaba. Estuve especialmente en la zona que va de Shiroles hacia arriba que era la de m\u00e1s f\u00e1cil acceso, se llegaba por r\u00edo. Ah\u00ed s\u00ed hubo varios talleres que hab\u00edan organizado algunas organizaciones aqu\u00ed locales del Caribe que estaban empezando a mover el tema de las plantas medicinales. Los ind\u00edgenas eran los que ten\u00edan y tienen el mayor conocimiento de las plantas, entonces, obviamente era la fuente de conocimiento m\u00e1s importante para m\u00ed.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-8f761849 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:70%\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" loading=\"lazy\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"264\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/santateresahoy.com\/en\/2023\/07\/28\/entrevista-a-stefano-silvestri-uno-de-los-pioneros-de-la-conservacion-y-el-surf-en-la-zona\/img_9194\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/santateresahoy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/img_9194.jpeg?fit=4032%2C3024&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"4032,3024\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;1.8&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;iPhone 7&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;1684929325&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;3.99&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;32&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0.041666666666667&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;1&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"img_9194\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/santateresahoy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/img_9194.jpeg?fit=863%2C647&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/santateresahoy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/img_9194.jpeg?resize=489%2C366&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-264\" style=\"width:489px;height:366px\" width=\"489\" height=\"366\" \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\" style=\"font-size:9px\">Stefano Silvestri impartiendo un taller de plantas medicinales en la Reserva Natural Oropopo \/ Stefano Silvestri teaching a mecinal plants workshop in the Oropopo Natural Reserve<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:40%\">\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\u00bfUsted ah\u00ed ya hab\u00eda empezado a estudiar bot\u00e1nica?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">En esos tiempos yo empezaba a estudiar bot\u00e1nica y etnobot\u00e1nica con expertos locales. Pero en aquel tiempo el tema de las plantas medicinales era casi como una secta. Cuando llegu\u00e9 ac\u00e1 a la zona empec\u00e9 a entrevistar a algunas personas mayores que ten\u00edan conocimiento del uso de las plantas en el sur de la pen\u00ednsula y recolect\u00e9 una informaci\u00f3n muy \u00fatil para para ver cu\u00e1les plantas se usaban ac\u00e1, que era ya muy diferente de lo que usaban en las monta\u00f1as, en el Caribe o lo que usaban los ind\u00edgenas. Hab\u00eda un uso diferente de plantas, a veces la misma planta, pero con usos diferentes.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Cuando usted lleg\u00f3, Cabo Blanco ya exist\u00eda.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">S\u00ed, ya exist\u00eda desde el 1963. Yo iba bastante a los senderos del lado de Cabuya que hab\u00edan abierto. A veces iba a San Miguel cuando hab\u00eda alguna actividad para la comunidad. Pero en aquel tiempo no hab\u00eda tanta relaci\u00f3n entre la reserva y la comunidad, m\u00e1s bien hab\u00eda un cierto conflicto. Los pescadores lo sent\u00edan un poquito como una limitaci\u00f3n por no poder entrar a pescar a la reserva. Es algo que ya se ha solucionado, y m\u00e1s bien ahora los pescadores trabajan en conjunto con la Reserva porque ya entendieron la importancia de la conservaci\u00f3n para permitirle un uso de recurso pesquero a largo plazo porque esa conservaci\u00f3n de esa zona hace que ellos al final tengan m\u00e1s peces alrededor. Ahora m\u00e1s bien ellos mismos est\u00e1n afectados por la pesca ilegal que proviene de la zona de Guanacaste y la zona del Golfo de Nicoya ya que estas dos zonas son zonas cr\u00edticas en el sentido de que se ha perdido mucho recurso marino. Gracias a la Reserva se mantiene una riqueza importante de recurso pesquero.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Entonces en los a\u00f1os 80 y 90 \u00bfdigamos que la conservaci\u00f3n no era quiz\u00e1s una prioridad?&nbsp;<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Hubo un gran cambio y especialmente las nuevas generaciones son much\u00edsimo m\u00e1s conscientes de esto. Hay que tomar en cuenta que la generaci\u00f3n de los que llegaron ac\u00e1 era la frontera agr\u00edcola, entonces ellos abrieron monta\u00f1a para sembrar. Ahora las nuevas generaciones han entendido que la conservaci\u00f3n de los recursos naturales, es muy importante tambi\u00e9n para el turismo. Esto ha creado una diferente disposici\u00f3n y actitud frente a la reserva y frente al trabajo de las organizaciones ambientalistas de la zona. Hay much\u00edsimo m\u00e1s apoyo.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">En el pasado, hace como 20 a\u00f1os, nosotros creamos junto con otros compa\u00f1eros la primera comisi\u00f3n ambiental aqu\u00ed y empezamos a hacer las primeras reforestaciones y las primeras limpiezas de playa. Tratamos de involucrar a todo el pueblo y efectivamente una parte del pueblo s\u00ed respond\u00eda a esto. Se organizaban unas fiestas una vez al a\u00f1o, generalmente en la zona donde ahora est\u00e1 la pizzer\u00eda de El Carmen con premios para los que hab\u00edan hecho la recolecci\u00f3n. All\u00ed se llevaba la basura tambi\u00e9n para poder reciclar, separar lo reciclable y todo eso. La primera comisi\u00f3n ambiental dur\u00f3 varios a\u00f1os y era parte de la ADI. En aquel tiempo no recib\u00edamos mucho apoyo de la comunidad pero ahora hay much\u00edsima m\u00e1s conciencia, hay m\u00e1s presencia y m\u00e1s disposici\u00f3n a ayudar.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>\u00bfC\u00f3mo ve el futuro? \u00bfEs optimista?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Mira, yo sigo haciendo lo que creo que tengo que hacer sin hacerme mucha pregunta, porque si me las hago tengo miedo de tener que contestar que veo que no vamos a un futuro de conservaci\u00f3n. M\u00e1s bien creo que se nos est\u00e1 escapando de la mano.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A pesar de esto, sigo trabajando en temas de conservaci\u00f3n y haciendo lo que puedo. Tratando de participar en el f\u00f3rum donde se toman decisiones, aportar lo que puedo. Tenemos la reserva de Oropopo para educaci\u00f3n ambiental y para conservaci\u00f3n.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Me parece que a nivel nacional se han tomado decisiones de desarrollo muy en firme ya y no creo que pueda haber una marcha atr\u00e1s. Puede haber una marcha atr\u00e1s solo si la comunidad saliera a la calle verdaderamente a protestar de manera contundente.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Especialmente despu\u00e9s de la pandemia ha habido un incremento de un desarrollo, totalmente salvaje y desordenado, donde verdaderamente ha apremiado la maximizaci\u00f3n del beneficio econ\u00f3mico. Est\u00e1n viniendo inversionistas que verdaderamente quieren hacer dinero. La relaci\u00f3n con el lugar ha cambiado, para muchos es solo un medio para hacer dinero y por es fundamental es que exista un Plan de Ordenamiento Territorial<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Siento que las pol\u00edticas p\u00fablicas van direcci\u00f3n a un desarrollo que quiz\u00e1s no es tan regenerativo, sea a nivel municipal o a nivel nacional, entonces solo un milagro o un levantamiento serio de la comunidad puede permitir salvar esta maravilla que tenemos.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>H\u00e1blenos de Oropopo, su reserva<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Esta reserva tiene 20 hect\u00e1reas y aunque es una reserva peque\u00f1a, es muy importante porque est\u00e1 alrededor de la reserva de Cabo Blanco y antes no hab\u00eda una zona de amortiguamiento, que ser\u00eda un cord\u00f3n que sirve de \u00e1rea de protecci\u00f3n alrededor de la reserva permitiendo que no haya un impacto directo sobre la misma.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Ahora con Oropopo s\u00ed lo hay, aunque ya hay varios proyectos de desarrollo que se est\u00e1n dando en la monta\u00f1a alrededor del l\u00edmite de la reserva y eso va a acarrear serios problemas para Cabo Blanco, que es una zona protegida muy peque\u00f1a. Son 1,360 hect\u00e1reas y no hay nada igual en t\u00e9rminos de conservaci\u00f3n, es muy fr\u00e1gil. Todo este desarrollo verdaderamente es una amenaza latente, por eso la Reserva Natural Oropopo, por cu\u00e1n peque\u00f1a sea, es un paradigma de lo que deber\u00eda haber alrededor de la Reserva Cabo Blanco. Para que sea un \u00e1rea de conservaci\u00f3n viable necesita tener conectividad con otras \u00e1reas.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Realmente deber\u00edan haber restricciones, no te digo totales, pero algunas en cuanto a la posibilidad de construir para reducir el impacto la huella porque el d\u00eda de ma\u00f1ana la reserva va a estar rodeada de apartamentos.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Un \u00e1rea protegida es un ser vivo que necesita ser alimentado con intercambio gen\u00e9tico, porque si no se reduce a una jaula dorada desde el punto de vista biol\u00f3gico, necesita corredores biol\u00f3gicos para poder alimentarse en t\u00e9rminos de flora y de fauna.\u00a0 Eso se est\u00e1 limitando mucho por todo este desarrollo, no solo aqu\u00ed, tambi\u00e9n del lado de Cabuya. Si va a ver la calle que une Malpa\u00eds a Cabuya \u00bfViste cuantas calles se han abierto? \u00bfCu\u00e1nto de todo esto es un desarrollo pr\u00f3ximo? Es la t\u00e9cnica de apertura de calles ilegales, cambio de uso de suelo, tala y construcci\u00f3n, ese ser\u00eda el mecanismo.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Y tenemos una respuesta insuficiente de las instituciones que deber\u00edan hacer control y fiscalizaciones y no lo hacen, algunas por problema presupuestario y otras por falta de voluntad pol\u00edtica o porque tienen otro modelo de desarrollo. Es lo que est\u00e1 prevaleciendo no solo ac\u00e1 sino a nivel nacional, en todas las costas.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">As\u00ed concluye este encuentro con Stefano del que sacamos algunas reflexiones clave: que ha habido un cambio de conciencia con las nuevas generaciones y que necesitamos organizarnos como comunidad si queremos que la riqueza natural de la zona se pueda salvar.&nbsp;<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Desde que se realiz\u00f3 esta entrevista, una fuerte tormenta azot\u00f3 toda la zona de Santa Teresa y Malpa\u00eds haciendo caer solo en la reserva de Oropopo muchos \u00e1rboles grandes de gran importancia ecosist\u00e9mica. Seguiremos informando si hay algo en lo que la comunidad pueda ayudar y ojal\u00e1 este suceso nos ayude a cuidar nuestros bosques que hacen de cortaviento ante este tipo de tornados.\u00a0<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Entrevista por Elena Parras, editora y fundadora de Santa Teresa Hoy.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-columns is-layout-flex wp-container-core-columns-is-layout-8f761849 wp-block-columns-is-layout-flex\">\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:50%\">\n<figure class=\"wp-block-image size-large is-resized\"><img data-recalc-dims=\"1\" decoding=\"async\" data-attachment-id=\"271\" data-permalink=\"https:\/\/santateresahoy.com\/en\/2023\/07\/28\/entrevista-a-stefano-silvestri-uno-de-los-pioneros-de-la-conservacion-y-el-surf-en-la-zona\/img_9180-1\/\" data-orig-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/santateresahoy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/img_9180-1-3016997275-e1690459982982.jpeg?fit=3021%2C2265&amp;ssl=1\" data-orig-size=\"3021,2265\" data-comments-opened=\"1\" data-image-meta=\"{&quot;aperture&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;credit&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;camera&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;caption&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;created_timestamp&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;copyright&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;focal_length&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;iso&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;shutter_speed&quot;:&quot;0&quot;,&quot;title&quot;:&quot;&quot;,&quot;orientation&quot;:&quot;0&quot;}\" data-image-title=\"img_9180-1\" data-image-description=\"\" data-image-caption=\"\" data-large-file=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/santateresahoy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/img_9180-1-3016997275-e1690459982982.jpeg?fit=863%2C647&amp;ssl=1\" src=\"https:\/\/i0.wp.com\/santateresahoy.com\/wp-content\/uploads\/2023\/07\/img_9180-1-3016997275-e1690459982982.jpeg?w=320&#038;ssl=1\" alt=\"\" class=\"wp-image-271\" style=\"aspect-ratio:1;object-fit:cover;width:320px\"  \/><\/figure>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\" style=\"font-size:9px\">Stefano Silvestri junto a un gran arbol en la Reserva Natural Oropopo.<br>Stefano Silvestri near a big tree in the Oropopo Natural Reserve<\/p>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<div class=\"wp-block-column is-layout-flow wp-block-column-is-layout-flow\" style=\"flex-basis:60%\">\n<p class=\"has-medium-font-size wp-block-paragraph\">Interview with Stefano Silvestri, one of the pioneers of conservation and surfing in town<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">We interviewed Stefano Silvestri to learn about his journey in nature conservation and his experiences arriving in Costa Rica. We meet in his bamboo house which is an oasis of tranquility in the midst of the noise that has been in the area lately.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Stefano Silvestri came from Italy (where he studied Law) 38 years ago to work on a technical cooperation project about Human Rights with the University of Costa Rica . Later, he became interested in botany and worked on organic agriculture, medicinal plants and trees.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In 1989, together with some friends, he acquired a farm of more than 20 hectares that they left under conservation and which gave rise to the Oropopo Natural Reserve.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">For 10 years he has been working with the Costa Rican Network of Natural Reserves, an organization that brings together more than 200 voluntary reserves in the country. He is also co-founder of Somos Congos and is part of Covirena.<\/p>\n<\/div>\n<\/div>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>When you arrived in Santa Teresa and Malpa\u00eds, what was your first impression? What was life like here?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I arrived for the first time in the summer of 1985-86, by boat from Cabuya and I remember that we slept on the beach in Mar Azul. There was a small town in Malpa\u00eds and Santa Teresa. There were very few houses. On the right side, going north, they all belonged to the IDA (Agrarian Development Institute), which had given that land to peasants who had come to the area to cultivate subsistence agriculture. Fundamentally livestock and a little crops.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">On the left hand side of the street were the maritime miles, which at that time were not worth much because the land was very bad for agriculture and almost nothing was cultivated there, just a little of \u201ccuadrado\u201d, a type of musaceae that is given to eat animals. In Malpa\u00eds there was a small town and the people had begun to dedicate themselves to fishing. The majority of the population of Malpa\u00eds and Santa Teresa came from the interior of the country, which is why they called them Cartagos. They were not from Cartago, but the word Cartago was to indicate people from the plateau, Alajuela, Esparza, San Ram\u00f3n&#8230; And there were some laborers who came from Guanacaste. But they were very few, the majority came from the Central Plateau.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Was there tourism? Foreigners?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There was almost no tourism. Access was very difficult, in winter practically impossible, even down here, from Malpa\u00eds to Santa Teresa there were no bridges. There was more tourism in Montezuma, which was already more of a town. Electricity came here in 1992 when we, with a friend, decided to build a little house using some of the wood that ICE had cut to electrify the area.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>When did your love for surfing start? At what point did this become a surf paradise?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In the Mediterranean I didn&#8217;t surf because we have very few waves. It was here that I started with Costa Rican surfers when I lived in San Jos\u00e9 and worked at the University. I would go with them to surf in the central Pacific or Puerto Viejo, that is, the Caribbean and sometimes Guanacaste.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">When I got to this area I started surfing here. At first we were very few.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">When I arrived, the truth was that surfing was just beginning and I didn&#8217;t know where to go because nobody surfed, I didn&#8217;t know if there were rocks or not. Little by little, I was experimenting.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>And also, you recently commented that you had learned about medicinal plants from the Bribri:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I spent some time in the Caribbean and there I was in the Bribri and Cab\u00e9car communities several times. When a medicinal plant workshop was organized I tried to go and take advantage of everything that was presented. I was especially in the area that goes from Shiroles upwards, which was the easiest to access, it was reached by boat. There were several workshops that had been organized by some local organizations in the Caribbean that were beginning to raise the issue of medicinal plants. The indigenous people were the ones who had and still have the greatest knowledge of plants, so it was obviously the most important source of knowledge for me.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Had you already started studying botany before that?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">At that time I was beginning to study botany and ethnobotany with local experts. But at that time the topic of medicinal plants was almost like a cult. When I arrived here in the area, I began to interview some older people who had knowledge of the use of plants in the south of the peninsula and I collected very useful information to see which plants were used here, which was already very different from what they used in the mountains, in the Caribbean, or what the indigenous people used. There was a different use of plants, sometimes the same plant, but with different uses.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>When you arrived, Cabo Blanco already existed.<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Yes, it already existed since 1963. I used to go a lot to the trails they had opened on the Cabuya side. Sometimes I would go to San Miguel when there was some activity for the community. But at that time there was not so much relationship between the reserve and the community, rather there was a certain conflict. The fishermen felt it a bit like a limitation for not being able to enter the reserve to fish. It is something that has already been solved, and now the fishermen work together with the reserve because they understood the importance of conservation to allow long-term use of the fishing resource because the conservation of that area means that in the end they have more fish around. Now they are actually affected by illegal fishing that comes from the Guanacaste area and the Gulf of Nicoya area, since these two areas are critical areas in the sense that a lot of marine resources have been lost. Thanks to the Reserve, an important wealth of fishing resources is maintained.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>So in the 80&#8217;s and 90&#8217;s, let&#8217;s just say conservation wasn&#8217;t a priority?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There has been a big change. The new generations are much more aware of this. It must be taken into account that the generation of those who arrived here lived in an agricultural culture, so they opened up mountains to sow. Now the new generations have understood that the conservation of natural resources is also very important for tourism. This has created a different disposition and attitude towards the reserve and towards the work of environmental organizations in the area. There is much more support.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">In the past, about 20 years ago, together with other colleagues,  we created the first environmental commission here and we began to do the first reforestations and the first beach cleanups. We tried to involve the whole town and indeed a part of the town did respond to this. Parties were organized once a year, generally in the area where the El Carmen is now, with prizes for those who had collected trash. The garbage was also taken there to be able to recycle, separate the recyclable and all that. The first environmental commission lasted several years and was part of the ADI. At that time we did not receive much support from the community but now there is much more awareness, there is more presence and more willingness to help.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>How do you see the future? Are you optimistic?<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I continue doing what I think I have to do without asking myself too many questions, because if I ask myself I am afraid of having to answer that I see that we are not going to a future of conservation. I rather think it is getting out of hand.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Despite this, I continue to work on conservation issues and do what I can. Trying to participate in the forum where decisions are made, contribute what I can. We have the Oropopo reserve for environmental education and conservation.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">It seems to me that very firm development decisions have already been made at national level and I don&#8217;t think there can be a way back. There can be a reversal only if the community really took to the streets to protest forcefully.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Especially after the pandemic there has been an increase in the development where profit maximization has truly been the center. There are investors coming who really want to make money. The relationship with the place has changed and it is really necessary that we have a territorial arrangement planning as soon as possible.  <\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">I feel that public policies are moving in the direction of a more commercial and less regenerative development, whether at the municipal or national level. Only a miracle or a serious uprising in the community can save this marvel that we have.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\"><strong>Tell us about Oropopo, your Reserve:<\/strong><\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This Reserve has 20 hectares and although it is a small reserve, it is very important because it is around the Cabo Blanco Absolute Reserve and before, there was no buffer zone, which would be a cordon that makes a protection area around the reserve, allowing it not to have a direct impact on it. Now with Oropopo there is. Although, there are already several development projects that are taking place in the mountains around the border of the Reserve and that is going to cause serious problems for Cabo Blanco, which is a very small protected area. It is only 1,360 hectares and there is nothing like it in terms of conservation, it is very fragile. All this development is truly a latent threat, which is why Oropopo, even being so small, is a paradigm of what should be around the Cabo Blanco reserve. For it to be a viable conservation area, it needs to have connectivity with other areas.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">There really should be restrictions, I&#8217;m not saying total, but some, in terms of the possibility of building less to reduce the footprint impact, because tomorrow the Reserve will be surrounded by apartments.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">A protected area is a living being that needs to be fed through genetic exchange, because if not, it is reduced to a golden cage from a biological point of view. It needs biological corridors to be able to feed itself in terms of flora and fauna. That is being greatly limited by all this development, not only here, but also on the Cabuya side. If you go see the road that connects Malpa\u00eds to Cabuya, did you see how many streets have been opened? How much of all this is a forthcoming development? It is the technique of opening illegal streets, change of land use, deforestation and construction. That would be the mechanism.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">And we have an insufficient response from the institutions that should carry out controls and audits and do not do so, some due to budgetary problems and others due to a lack of political will or because they have another development model. It is what is prevailing not only here, but at a national level, on all coasts.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">This is how this meeting with Stefano concludes, from which we draw some key reflections: that there has been a change of consciousness with the new generations and that we need to organize ourselves as a community if we want the natural wealth of the area to be saved.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Since this interview was conducted, a strong storm hit the entire area of \u200b\u200bSanta Teresa and Malpa\u00eds, causing only in the Oropopo reserve the fall of many large trees of great ecosystem importance. We will continue to report if there is anything the community can help with and hopefully this event will help us take care of our forests which act as a windshield against this kind of tornadoes.<\/p>\n\n\n\n<p class=\"wp-block-paragraph\">Interview by Elena Parras, editor and founder of Santa Teresa Hoy.<\/p>","protected":false},"excerpt":{"rendered":"<p>&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;-English below&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;&#8212;- Entrevistamos a Stefano Silvestri para aprender sobre su trayectoria en la conservaci\u00f3n de la naturaleza y sus experiencias al llegar a Costa Rica. Nos reunimos en su casa de bamb\u00fa que es un oasis de tranquilidad en medio del ruido que hay \u00faltimamente en la zona. 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